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Mitch's avatar

It's such a pity that we cannot put the people who spout this garbage under oath when they are "spouting" forth. That way they'd have to be very sure of their figures because omission or lying would be punishable etc. I can't wait for any political parties to knock on my door to explain why they are hell bent on renewables and wanting my vote accordingly. As the song goes "I'll send them hameward tae think again" Thanks David. You've been marvelous in explaining this in easy terms for me. Cheers 👍

Mark Hazell's avatar

I think you beautifully summarised the issue with LCOE when you referred to its original purpose as a metric to compare ‘like for like’ forms of generation.

Power produced by intermittent, non-dispatchable, zero inertia renewables (wind and solar) is simply not the same as that produced by nuclear, hydro, tidal, geothermal or conventional thermal plants.

In any normal market it would be priced accordingly but of course that would mean precious little gets built so we pretend it is the same and then compound the stupidity by socialising the costs of accommodating it across all consumers.

Even worse we then add penalties (carbon levies) to fossil fuel derived power as well as provide subsidies (CFDs, ROCs etc.) to favour those types of generation perceived as ‘greener’ (go Drax) which further masks the true value of the power produced.

The other major problem you didn’t really touch on is connection and transmission costs which of course are a massive issue now, particularly for offshore wind. Not only is the cost of getting the power to a suitable connection point on the transmission system ignored, so in large part is the cost of then moving the power to where demand is.

It actually makes building in remote locations far from any demand seem attractive, utter madness.

Short of total market reform the only way I know of dealing with this is for each new generation tranche offered in an auction round to be ranked on a total cost basis. Add the cost of the storage, the back-up, the connection to the network and a pro-rated share of the upgrades to the transmission network to the price paid for generation when comparing bids. Have a threshold for what is an acceptable cost above which the bids get rejected.

I would also apply the same logic to overall network planning. Get NESO to do a similar exercise for various generation mixes when doing their grid planning, seeking to optimise on lowest overall cost. This would then ensure the targets for wind, solar, nuclear, hydro, batteries etc. were based on reality and not just wishful thinking as at present.

At the end of the day, total cost is what businesses and consumers pay for and not just generation costs and variations thereon.

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